Need everyone's vote!

Tim Royer · Post by **Tim Royer** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:49 pm

HI,

Any comments or questions about the event can be posted here.

dlascoskie · Post by **dlascoskie** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:36 pm

Though I've never run it, I voted counter-clockwise because when I was a spectator 2 years ago I noticed a nasty dip at the end of the front straight, if you are running clockwise, that unsettled a lot of cars while they were under heavy braking. Unless they fixed it, I'd rather not have to deal with that dip.

Joe Foering · Post by **Joe Foering** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:42 pm

We have to run counterclockwise (viewed from the pits) in the Fall because of the races on the adjoining circuit, so we should run clockwise in the Spring. It makes for some variety and a nice balance between the events.

Champ · Post by **Champ** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:13 pm

I like running clockwise because I spin into sight of the pits running clockwise. I spin out of sight of the pits running counter-clockwise. Makes for more excitement for the spectators.

RX-Midget · Post by **RX-Midget** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:12 pm

I like changing the direction for Spring and Fall. I only run a limited number of events and the variety is nice event though it is the same track.

Clockwise for Spring.

jimmyp · Post by **jimmyp** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:05 pm

Ditto
Change it up Spring / Fall
Cheers
jimmy p.

Joe Foering wrote:We have to run counterclockwise (viewed from the pits) in the Fall because of the races on the adjoining circuit, so we should run clockwise in the Spring. It makes for some variety and a nice balance between the events.

svann · Post by **svann** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:50 am

I think that is a good point Joe has. If I remember correctly, we have run it both directions on the same weekend. CW one day and CCW the other. I'm I remembering that correctly?

Joe Foering · Post by **Joe Foering** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:02 am

Yes, we did run in both directions in the past, but, there were complaints from the main track that when we ran clockwise in the Fall, the drivers on the main circuit were distracted by what they thought were cars coming at them from the wrong direction so we can only run counterclockwise in the Fall.

Tim Royer · Post by **Tim Royer** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:54 pm

HI,

Yes we have been running clockwise Saturday and counter Sunday or viseversa. At the last Spring Jefferson the question was asked which type of event do you want for next year. The highest votes were for 1 direction for both days. This poll is to find out what you all want. For the looks of the votes so far it will be clockwise. Vote it up all!

McDallion · Post by **McDallion** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:29 pm

I think we should continue to run Jefferson in both directions. It has been established that a car can be damaged running either.
Don

Tim Royer · Post by **Tim Royer** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:10 pm

HI,

Well I would do it either way. It was put to a vote last year like I said and eveyone there wanted a single direction for both days. Also they voted and all said clockwise. So I'm just double checking what everyone prefers and sorry but it will only be one way for both days.

jimmyp · Post by **jimmyp** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:51 am

Tim Royer wrote:HI,

Well I would do it either way. It was put to a vote last year like I said and eveyone there wanted a single direction for both days. Also they voted and all said clockwise. So I'm just double checking what everyone prefers and sorry but it will only be one way for both days.

Makes perfect sense Tim, since thats the only chance we have to run it clockwise (Spring event) may as well take advantage of that.
Clockwise is no longer an option at the Fall one, so it balances.
Two days per season CW, two days CCW.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:54 am

If it's still two events???? then it should be both directions. One event, one direction counter clockwise would be logical. The instructors that I have spoke to agree that CCW is safer.

Tim Royer · Post by **Tim Royer** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:29 pm

HI,

It would be a single event going the same way each day so single event points are awarded. The course was designed to go either CCW or CW. There is just as much chance of anything happening either way you go. There's plenty of runoff going either way. Knock on wood, we have been running CW for years now with no real problems. The only problems with off courses is overdriving the car and that's on the driver.

At the PHA meeting I will bring up what options are on the table. I like running either direction and prefer running both ways. Like all the years in the past though I doubt I'll have any runs that weekend. This event is for all you guys I'm just making what you want, or trying

Matt Green · Post by **Matt Green** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:56 pm

dspgti wrote:If it's still two events???? then it should be both directions. One event, one direction counter clockwise would be logical. The instructors that I have spoke to agree that CCW is safer.

Wow, I'd love to know who they are. It is *quite a bit* safer to run the event clockwise, as that is the direction that the track was originally designed for...

The major reason we still run CCW only in the fall is at the request of DC Region.

RX-Midget · Post by **RX-Midget** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:28 pm

Matt Green wrote: It is *quite a bit* safer to run the event clockwise, as that is the direction that the track was originally designed for...

That makes sense. I always pucker up a bit when watching the in-car video running wide open and then trying to get it slowed down in time before you become part of the woods at turn 1 in the CCW direction (up hill right to the esses from the front straight).
It never bothers me in the car, just after the fact...

Post by **Matt Rowe** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:36 pm

As a guy who had their brakes go out just prior to that turn I can understand how you feel RX. Going off track at 100+ mph with nothing but trees in front of you. The track is defintely NOT setup equally for both directions, although it has been improved since my "incident".

Tim Royer · Post by **Tim Royer** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:36 pm

Hi,

I do retrack my "equal" statement. Matt G. is correct. I was going to repost about this but my PC crashed Sunday and I'm stuck just checking the forum at noon. FYI any emails sent to me will be delayed in a reply. Please message me on this forum till further notice

svann · Post by **svann** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Tim,
I'm good with any or both directions. REALLY! But should you have added a option of "Both directions" to the survey? It looks like that is a option that some what to have.

Matt Green · Post by **Matt Green** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:35 pm

The only issue with that is that then we need to run Touring runs both days. In our current format, Touring amounts to less total track time at speed and in a safe environment. Going the same direction both days means we can start right out on Sunday with timed runs...

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