Re: New to Hillclimbing
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:16 pm
I cannot find any limitations on CID in Street Mod. There are a lot of +/- changes to weight rules due to this mod or that. But we do none of that here in hillclimbs. So, you could show up with a 440 bored out as far as it goes pushing 2000hp and there are no modifiers for time/weight. As long as that block matches the manufacturer of the vehicle, it doesn't matter what you do to it. Here is the rule out of the Solo rules:
1. Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged
the same as the original standard or optional engine for that model. Badges that exist as marketing aliases for the manufacturer
will be recognized as equivalents. Swaps involving makes related
only at a corporate level are not recognized as equivalents. Models produced as a joint venture between manufacturers may utilize
any engine from any partner in the joint venture, provided that an
engine from the desired manufacturer was a factory option in that
particular model (e.g. Eagle Talon available originally with either a
Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine, may use any motor from Chrysler
or Mitsubishi). This allows engine blocks manufactured as production units for sale in other countries such as Japan or Germany.
2. Maximum engine displacements per class are specified in Appendix A.
That rule is take out of 16.1.D on page 108. When you get to Appendix A, on page 186, you get this:
Engine Classifications
1. Four-stroke cycle and two-stroke cycle, naturally aspirated internal combustion engines will be classified on the basis of actual
piston displacement.
2. Turbocharged or supercharged versions of all engines will be classified on a basis of adding 1.4L to the actual displacement.
3. Rotary Engines (Wankel): These units will be classified on the
basis of a piston displacement equivalent to 0.9 liters times the
number of rotors, plus the volume determined by the difference
between the maximum and minimum capacity of the working
chamber times the number of rotors.
4. Electric Motors: Cars with electric motors, in whole or part of the
drivetrain, will run at class maximum weight of 2900 lbs for SSM
class and 3100 lbs for SM class. Category weight adjustments
(e.g., tire size) are allowed.
So if someone can find where it talks about a limitation, point it out. Otherwise, you are welcome to enter Street Mod with that motor and I can guarantee, NO ONE in that class will bitch because it's legal.
For the record, the Mach is officially in SM. Mr Sticker took off the ESP and put on SM. So there ya have it!
Unrelated:
The 275mm width of tire specification in Appendix A is only for a weight reduction credit and has nothing to do with minimums allowed on the vehicle. If you back up to the Street Prepared rules, no limitations are placed on tire width or wheel width are in effect. Here:
15.3 TIRES
Tires must meet the eligibility requirements for Stock Category with the
following exception: the list of non-eligible tires in Section 13.3.A is replaced with the following list, which may be altered at any time by the
SEB upon notification of membership.
No tire models are currently listed.
15.4 WHEELS
Vehicles may only exceed the allowances of 13.4 as specified herein.
A. Wheels of any diameter, width, or offset may be used. Aftermarket
wheels may be modified to install OE tire pressure sensors.
B. Wheel spacers are permitted. Wheel studs and knock-off wheel drive
pegs may be changed in length and diameter. Wheel bolts may be
replaced with studs and nuts.
Street Mod is a crazy, open class for mods. There are limitations but for the most part, ya just glance thru the rules for what you want to do and you're done. The Cuda is listed in ESP, but for any engine mod outside of factory(not including the carb or intake or exhaust), you're in SM. And yes, all you need is a 4pt bar to run SM. All the crazies run there so if you're normal, you won't be for long!!!!
As I like to say, hillclimbing is the only place you can blast up these public roads and NOT get a speeding ticket!
1. Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged
the same as the original standard or optional engine for that model. Badges that exist as marketing aliases for the manufacturer
will be recognized as equivalents. Swaps involving makes related
only at a corporate level are not recognized as equivalents. Models produced as a joint venture between manufacturers may utilize
any engine from any partner in the joint venture, provided that an
engine from the desired manufacturer was a factory option in that
particular model (e.g. Eagle Talon available originally with either a
Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine, may use any motor from Chrysler
or Mitsubishi). This allows engine blocks manufactured as production units for sale in other countries such as Japan or Germany.
2. Maximum engine displacements per class are specified in Appendix A.
That rule is take out of 16.1.D on page 108. When you get to Appendix A, on page 186, you get this:
Engine Classifications
1. Four-stroke cycle and two-stroke cycle, naturally aspirated internal combustion engines will be classified on the basis of actual
piston displacement.
2. Turbocharged or supercharged versions of all engines will be classified on a basis of adding 1.4L to the actual displacement.
3. Rotary Engines (Wankel): These units will be classified on the
basis of a piston displacement equivalent to 0.9 liters times the
number of rotors, plus the volume determined by the difference
between the maximum and minimum capacity of the working
chamber times the number of rotors.
4. Electric Motors: Cars with electric motors, in whole or part of the
drivetrain, will run at class maximum weight of 2900 lbs for SSM
class and 3100 lbs for SM class. Category weight adjustments
(e.g., tire size) are allowed.
So if someone can find where it talks about a limitation, point it out. Otherwise, you are welcome to enter Street Mod with that motor and I can guarantee, NO ONE in that class will bitch because it's legal.
For the record, the Mach is officially in SM. Mr Sticker took off the ESP and put on SM. So there ya have it!
Unrelated:
The 275mm width of tire specification in Appendix A is only for a weight reduction credit and has nothing to do with minimums allowed on the vehicle. If you back up to the Street Prepared rules, no limitations are placed on tire width or wheel width are in effect. Here:
15.3 TIRES
Tires must meet the eligibility requirements for Stock Category with the
following exception: the list of non-eligible tires in Section 13.3.A is replaced with the following list, which may be altered at any time by the
SEB upon notification of membership.
No tire models are currently listed.
15.4 WHEELS
Vehicles may only exceed the allowances of 13.4 as specified herein.
A. Wheels of any diameter, width, or offset may be used. Aftermarket
wheels may be modified to install OE tire pressure sensors.
B. Wheel spacers are permitted. Wheel studs and knock-off wheel drive
pegs may be changed in length and diameter. Wheel bolts may be
replaced with studs and nuts.
Street Mod is a crazy, open class for mods. There are limitations but for the most part, ya just glance thru the rules for what you want to do and you're done. The Cuda is listed in ESP, but for any engine mod outside of factory(not including the carb or intake or exhaust), you're in SM. And yes, all you need is a 4pt bar to run SM. All the crazies run there so if you're normal, you won't be for long!!!!
As I like to say, hillclimbing is the only place you can blast up these public roads and NOT get a speeding ticket!