I am not making this up...

[Mel Horn]

The City of Harrisburg, that model of fiscal responsibility, will be assessing a Vehicle Extrication Fee of $500 for accident victims.

What astounded me was the apparent statement by a city official that fatalities are not subject to extrication. (I hope he means subject to the fee).

[FV95]

Hmmm. There are those who are "victims" of "accidents,"" and those who are the cause of accidents. So, should the poor, hapless victim, t-boned by a drug addled member of the indiginous population have to pay? Or should the driver who gets cited, pay for both? The population of H'burg elected those making up the rules. Hopefully they paid attention to details.

[Mel Horn]

Hmmm. There are those who are "victims" of "accidents,"" and those who are the cause of accidents. So, should the poor, hapless victim, t-boned by a drug addled member of the indiginous population have to pay? Or should the driver who gets cited, pay for both? The population of H'burg elected those making up the rules. Hopefully they paid attention to details.

From what I've seen the driver at fault is responsible.
What concerns me also, given the predatory nature of Pennsylvania government at all levels (don't get me started..suffice to say the Commonwealth never met a revenue stream it didn't like...) is the possibility of someone skidding on ice, hitting a curb, maybe getting a flat tire; and all of a sudden their roof's getting cut off...
Or if someone opens your door and helps you out of the car, is that considered "extrication"?

[Rich Rock]

A new PA law went into effect in September. Under the new Vehicles Law section, "Obedience to traffic control devices warning of hazardous conditions," those who drive around or through signs closing a road due to existing or potentially hazardous conditions will have two points placed on their driving records and be fined up to $250. If emergency dispatchers need to be dispatched because of the violation the fine is increased to up to $500.

Anyone convicted of the violation "shall be sentenced to pay restitution in an amount equal to the the cost of police and fire response and emergency medical service or emergency preparedness response resulting from the offense". No limit is specified.

The law aims to increase safety for motorists and emergency responders in arras where flooding or other hazardous conditions exist.

Sounds like the city of Harrisburg is trying to get their share of $$ on the back of this new state law. I expect other jurisdictions will do the same.

[Mwilson]

I hope like Hell that doesn't apply to Hill Climbs, I could go broke!

[gdh57]

That actually sounds as though a person driving thru or removing a barricade is liable for any issues they cause? Or am I missing something?

Assuming I've got right, it still seems to have no relation to Mel's first post? Unless we are talking about making whoever wrecks responsible for event cleanup?

[Matt Rowe]

On the bright side if we can get our hills to be considered "hazardous road conditions" there is a real penalty to discourage the non-event people that ignore our barricades.

[miniacmike]

On the bright side if we can get our hills to be considered "hazardous road conditions" there is a real penalty to discourage the non-event people that ignore our barricades.

We could impose the death penalty

[Matt Rowe]

If you want to get really extreme we could just force them to let "Bad Matt" drive their car away from the hill.