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mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:21 pm

Follow this line if you can!

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa23 ... t=Mark.flv

Since ya can't post in VIDEOS, I thought I'd start a new thread.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:07 pm

I assume that you picked out Mark's worst run to get me to make remarks on his line? I'm not going to fall for that one. It's too obvious.

Dave Y.

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:59 am

Actually, this was his best run and the record setter. After I saw/taped it, I went to him, and he'll verify this, and asked him what he was doing by continuing the turn 1/2 way down the straight. Bad line or not on exit, it was a 57sec run.

Mark Aubele · Post by **Mark Aubele** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:11 pm

Thanks a lot Steve! I was like a foot off the apex, I think that was one of the three times I missed it all weekend. Oddly enough, that was one of my fastest runs of the weekend (I had gone 57.9 on saturday as well), and probably the ugliest. I was turning away from that hole, I guess I figured I would just continue across the track.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:10 pm

Hmmm, a foot off the apex (my guess was 5 feet or more?)? track out too early, over correct onto the straight and still set a record? Maybe the rest of us need to rethink "the line".

When I do that, I loose about 1-1/2 seconds to 2 seconds (done that many, many times). Maybe I need more horse power to make it up somewhere esle?

After all, isn't our best run the fastest we can go with the least amount of mistakes? The perfect run is the one we went slow enough to get it all right. When has anyone said, "that record run was perfect"? Maybe George B. can say it, but I doubt it. You just string together a bunch of scarey parts and hope it is good enough.
But let me interject this point. A late or missed apex is by far, faster and safer than an early apex. "Friends don't let friends early apex" .

Dave Y
I'm not an expert, just someone who made a lot of mistakes and tries to avoid repeating them and willing to share them with my friends.

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:26 pm

Well, Mark. You could follow this one.

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa23 ... whoops.flv

Mark Aubele · Post by **Mark Aubele** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:52 pm

I think one of the things with that particular corner is that I'm convinced there is no "apex". There may be two. That run I just stayed inside the whole turn, I never even apexed, I tracked out when I could. I tried late, early, double, and just plain staying inside, and found that staying inside was just as fast. I think that if Steve would've videotaped another part of the course I would've shown a more textbook racing line. Sometimes "the racing line" just isn't as fast, as any autocrosser I'm sure would agree.

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:22 pm

I have other video of you exiting that corner very well. yes, the apex may not be the fastest way thru the corner for a specific car. However, this is a road course and the line here is way different than on a hill.

Oh, I didn't post the other video, just because. But if you're really needing to see it, I can post. No problem. I also have the sandbagger braking way early into turn 1.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:09 pm

There is probaly no turn that has evoked so much discussion and disagreemant than Turn 1-2 in the CCW direction at Jefferson. Every weekend has included a walk around and livley accounts of why a particular driver's line is the best. On several occations, I suggested we have driver improvement talks in the classroom to help veterans as well as new arrivals. I'd love to see that come together.

What we really need is "Data Aquisition". I keep talking about it. Maybe this is the year I will make the investment.

Dave Y

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:27 pm

What would help a specific driver is a video being taken from that gazebo. You'd be able to see what the car is doing into and thru the turn as well as set up thru the S's. My car seems to always want to have the back end come around just as I start my turn in. The crown is pretty severe there and MY car wants to do things that may be different from someone elses. I could turn in early and get on the correct side of the crown but that sets me up to completely miss the entrance to the S's. So, I just deal with the crown and slide thru 1. Those course workers in 1 saw that first hand. Granted, I was on streets but it was fun. Better when you don't have to battle trees. Can I enter an M1 Abrahms at Duryea in a new class? S10 maybe? Then I'll do battle with some trees.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:39 pm

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:34 pm

Does anyone know how to edit video's ?

Dave Y

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:24 pm

Just get some video editing software. I use Ulead Video Studeo 11. Relatively inexpenseive at about $100 if I remember correctly.

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:04 pm

Still need video editing, Dave? I just completed one with a compilation of several courses in '08. It's downloading to youtube now. Probably won't be finished in their servers for a good 1/2 hour.

dspgti · Post by **dspgti** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:03 pm

Yes, but first I need VHS tapes transfered to DVD. Can you do that?

Dave

mrevilracing · Post by **mrevilracing** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:31 pm

I haven't done it yet. Might have to get an additional card to accept RCA jacks and put it in my pc. Let me check into that.

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