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Thanks, I was just thinking that all that stuff was part of the supps. I'm glad to see you guys were able to work things out and get the issue's resolved that you guys needed. Is there any way to get a copy of what is different between with the supps vs the TTR?

I guess these Supps are in addition to the actual supps that will post up track info, schedule and officials?

Welcome to the PHA Rob! You might get more response in the general section.

What event are you thinking about?

These are the new rules. On page three you get the diameter of the tubing you need. It also clearly marks out alloy as 4130 being the same wall thickness. http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/REVISED%202013%20Time%20Trial%20Rules-All%20Docs.pdf Now, is it possible that the PHA could change tha...

It looks to be the same for alloy 4130 (which i assume is Chromoly but i am not positive?) according to the rules! Also, it says 1.5 x .120 or 1.75x .095 is required not 1.75x .120. From some quick research it looks like you would not gain any weight saving by using CM over DOM. But, you will gain s...

Dave i thought the same thing when i first read the post. I will assume from his wording, that he is asking about the SOLO class Street touring? STU in road race is called Super touring under. As long as i can remember the PHA has never run the street touring class or any of the SOLO stock classes. ...

I sense a lot of animosity about the fact that the "PHA" or really the regions that make up PHA did not seem to have a say in the new rules. I guess i am very curious as to what exactly went down. Did the PHA have a rep at the National convention where this all started? Did the PHA address...

John, From what i see in the new rules, a Chief driving instructor in not even required in level 3 or 4 events so that means that the 1 on1 rules does not apply. In fact, in the old rules all instructors at a PDX were suppose to be official's and had the same 1 on 1 ration. Try and find 70+ driving ...

I guess i just don't see how the new rules made that any different in regards to running a safe event either. The great things about the new rule set is that its a win win for everyone. If you want to put in tighter restriction for things then what is in the rules, then you are more then welcome too...

Matt, I completely agree that you could not run an event with just one official. But, there are times when there are no "official" licensed officials on hand to run the event under the old rules. That dosnt mean that there is nobody there qualified or willing to do the jobs. Just that not ...

You are completely right about what it takes to become an official. What has changed is that some of the more important officials can now have more then one duty. Or basically put their name on the sanction forms and have other people help that might not have the "official" before the lice...

Steve, you have also mentioned that we always need more people out to help. (especially officials) The new rules really address some of the problems some regions have in getting all the licensed officials to actually run an event.

Steve, i bet your hard hat would actually be safer then you think!

Have fun at the banquet!

FWIW, We just ran a PDX/Club trial at the Milwaukee Mile on Sat under the new rules. The self tech sheet was a big step forward and the drivers we talked to loved it. Many experienced guys comments were "its about time!"

I spoke with Tony Machi (retired Judge) who is on the TTAC on Saturday about the worry about legal concerns. He said that you are covered just as much now as with the old rules in place. He suggested that you contact National to speak with someone if you have any legal concerns. He also stated that ...

Morg, I can't imagine going into the woods in a car like yours. Your chance of being impaled and or your body hitting something is very real. Give me a tin top with just a roll bar any day. ;). I had what was considered by many to be a very dangerous race car. I now have probably one of the safest c...

Personal liability of event staff, regions and organizations is a great discussion to have with everyone.

All i can say is to contact some of the other TTAC member yourselves and find out the facts about how and why some things were done. I seem to have been able to keep a pretty good tab on things this past year that have been going on, and i don't even want to know.

I am not here to get in an argument over this. People can make up their own minds. I also suggest you contact someone on the TTAC to talk to them about your insurance worries. You might be surprised what they have learned. (and yes i do remember SCCA rally, this is NOT rally!) I think that a Hans de...

Here is something that i think explains it a bit better. I really just want folks to be educated on what is going on and to try and see the big picture. The few things that stick in minds are that this is the first time that we actually kno what is required by the insurance company. I hear it a bunc...